I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. I tend to setup comfortably in an open stance with all clubs. Im having a hard time figuring out just one thing, if I were to stand straight up and point my club straight out from my belt buckle its 90 degrees, if I bend over with the exact position until the club hits the ground then it obviously isnt in the correct position because I would still be at 90 degrees. There are many guys on this board who would love to get a shorter backswing. have been following your site for some time now and find your teaching illuminating and always interesting. One quick question. Herman. making sure I'm turning my shoulders 90* to my spine. So, I went with a neutral grip. : Hermaqn, There are some key points to keep in mind for the setup to ensure an inside approach with a level to upward hit. It really help me a lot on correcting my weak, slicing shots for a long time. Look on the bright side: at least you'll never have arm overrun. Herman, Great Job on the videos ,I live in Greensboro and am lefty,Iwill be calling for a lesson soon . Thanks for the information on the setup. So ready to give up! But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Hi Herman, I tried your suggestion on putting the ball in front no matter what kind of iron I am grabbing. Since I have a normal Height(178cm), below average Arms (my wrists to floor is 88cm , 3cm more than a normal guy with 178) and a thick chest, what do you think the length and lie of the irons should be changed relative to the standard ones? We test length with impact sensitive tape to determine where you hit the face. Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. [quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1386361482' post='8259595'] Right now, you're chunking golf shots because the low point of your swing happens before you reach the ball. My big mis-hit is a push-slice or shank. The tendency with the forward press is to struggle to align to the target and square the clubface in the setup. Upload or insert images from URL. Oh great, now Im even more confused. So if you want to fight through to a more conventional swing, your first goal has to be a solid grip and a solid release action. Your body will feel stuck and your hands will whip over quickly, My swing continues to improve with using your videos to guide me. Now I can identify my own errors and work at them! Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. 2. But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. In Australia it has a very different meaning which would offend many people. Plenty of Youtube vids of both to check out. Hi Herman, I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. If you each out instead of tilting, youll drop the glove. Watch the 2nd video starting at the 2:00 mark, no forcibly twisting of the lower spine. The beauty of this exercise is that you can easily throw a ball in the garden so next time you have a spare five minutes go outside pick up a ball and throw it. If not, click Golf Grip How to Grip a Golf Club. Are you referring to being heavy thick chested or having a barrel chest? Paige Spiranac has the same problem. Herman. I finally understand how to turn so the head stays centered and the shoulders are not too flat and I don't have to lift the arms. But I can hit 100s of balls quite nicely in this set up but I know its fundamentally wrong and wellId rather not do it. Herman. Ping G430 Max 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6X I'm very excited. Otherwise, your on-line tutorials have been very helpful. The only thing I always question now is how my wrists should be at set up. I'm a golf fan. I'm not learned enough to explain the three-barrel part but was a lurking member years ago there, and it was certainly an information-packed place. The problem all along has been the foundation. Maybe in the future. I have lost significant distance, consistency and golf balls trying to get flatter and deeper. If you cant seem to get the club comfortably down to the ground, have a professional check the length and lie angle of the clubs. Mike Adams in particular has stated that at address the left arm could set on top of the pec, not to the side, for folks with this issue. Hey Grant, Thanks for following my work. Not exactly short and stocky though. From the setup position with the clubhead resting on the ground at the center of the stance, simply shuffle over to the ball while maintaining setup posture. Hey David, glad to hear youve been Hermanized. I don't care what guys say, the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. With this build there is also a definite tendency to have a flat shoulder turn in the backswing in an an effort to get your arms up and back. So he and co-author and pupil Simon Hawkins pieced together Now for the Back Nine. Wishon 919 THI 11* 0.5* Open Herman. Keep up the great work. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Display as a link instead, Titleist TSi 16.5 Graphite Design AD DI 7S Also, I think width is more important for a big guy vs depth. Pete, you are right on track. Exo #7. Since I have a very thick chest with this setup for me everything is easier. Thank you! Moving it back a little for these short irons may help you if thats the case. The volunteers (not enough of them) didn't give a . Big hello from Texas. Mike Dunaway played football at Arkansas, I believe, and was rather stocky. That sucks. It was all "around." I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Before any more rambling I guess my main question is: I am confused. Just mentioning since it was a little uncomfortable to let a 6 iron shaft be right at belt buckle- felt like i would either go outside or had to open stance. But heres a question: say for a 9iron, the offset will leave the face of the club look closed (I am playing Mizuno JPX800 iron set), and its almost impossible to make it look square. Hogan had great leg drive and fast hips considering his major injuries from the car wreck in 1949. LC. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. Next, attach the right hand to the club. Herman. In this video Mark Wood PGA Advanced Professional shows you a great. Wishon 54, 59 Micro-Groove HM I have a lot of followers Down Under. Thanks for commenting and following my work. Epic Fail. I'm 5'6' and about 175 pounds. Should l try to widen my back swing or do you feel l should play with what l have got? Miguel, The best way to test this is to see what length you hit most easily centered in the clubface. ProV1X. Next, well add to the setup by talking about preshot routine. That being said, I think he could get away with a wider stance than most. (UK). Move to CT please!!! The golfer is forced to roll the arms around the body which in turn opens the clubface and sends the club off plane. DGA3, February 3, 2016 in Instruction & Academy. I have done a fair amount of bench pressing so development of this muscle and the slight lack of flexibility make it very important for me to do. We literally use the club as a yardstick to measure the body distance from the ball. Follow NCG on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram and dont forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel for free online golf instruction, the latest equipment reviews, and much, much more. Wishon 5, 6 560 MC 7-PW MMC MB Oh wait thats not correct. Since Im left handed that would be my right arm! Well last week i decided to try it since using your move of bringing the club down in slot before clearing and keeping trunk turned away at same time. The T-square approach is simpler for a wide range of players. 1) If ball is too far forward, club path will already be coming back to the left and cutting across so ball will have cut spin on it. Does it appear that way cause they are taller? and it sees you, it is trembling. Herman, Thank you for this video. I've lifted weights on and off my entire life, and have a barrel chest with large arms (luckily, I have only a 32" waist, so I'm not fat). [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] Standing at attention, grasp the club in the left hand while holding the handle beside the left hip, clubhead resting squarely on the ground near left foot. Think about the similarity to a Space Shuttle launch. It appears to me youve probably grown pretty accustomed to a strong-grip, closed face style of play with a flat swing plane. Good luck. Always need good footwork and posture. Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. The mirror can really be informative. There are a few reasons this might be happening. Robert, no shortgame videos. Thanks, Another thing I think I need to work on is stretching. Sign up here for our newsletter and you'll never slice a drive again. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Paste as plain text instead, Sorry for the mess and the rambling. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAP7cA8kq9U[/url] I'm barrel chested and not overweight I setup like anyone else and swing the same as everyone I golf with. I like that thinking mans golf coach. Ive always felt like you deserve to know why you are doing something beyond the standard reason my pro told me too. Its a lot easier to stay committed when you completely understand where youre coming from and where youre trying to go. Hope this helps clear up some of the apparent conflict in the descriptions. I also pivot better if I flare both feet out quite a bit, especially the front foot. If you have any suggestions to help my setup, particularly the hip issue, Id appreciate it. Because of this, I have spent a lot of time working on steeper shoulders, i.e. Look no further than the Leaning Tower of Pisa in Italy for a perfect example. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Body Turn in Golf Swing - The Golf Fix. Some of us have to really work to keep our arms in front of us and stop them when our shoulder turn stops. Alternatively, keep your toes pressed against the tops of your shoes as you make some half swings with a wedge. At 285 and wearing a 54 long jacket, I struggle with a one plane move. Its about finding what works for your body type. Hey Herman, Thanks for commenting. Here's how I recommend you getting the feel of this all-important connection: Put a credit card or golf glove under the left arm at set up. I thought about buying new clubs but decided to put the money into fitness and some lessons: I'm confident that it will have much better results (short and long term)! This motion gets you into a fully coiled position at the top of your backswing. I know you reccomend in this video that the clubface be centered in your stance at address, but could you speak a bit about that forward shaft lean at address and whether that is something you advocate. [/quote] I Just wanted to say hello and like the way you teach. Thanks for the compliments fellas. Heres how to setup correctly for a right-handed golfer. I dont think you are doing anything wrong. As far as the left arm I remember hearing "either go over or under". There's space between your chest and chin that I'm betting your left arm will fit in just fine -- but you have to add some "up" to your swing. Duly noted well use bottom or tail for those down under thanks. Look at my release article and video and go for a neutral grip and really train hard at getting your right forearm and hand to turn down and over through impact. Dear Herman, the more I follow and implement your advice, the better I strike the ball! ENTER NOW! Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? Again thanks for your rapid response. I like Smocks swing too. Now I am 45lbs over weight, but plan to start working out after Thanksgiving lol. What's my problem? Swing suggestions for my unusual body type . At the top of my back swing l can feel my right elbow on my side. This gives me something to review and refresh. Thanks for the comments, Mike. It was more like a shitty music festival than a golf tournament. It was an aha moment and instant. Groove the rotation you will need to pull your left arm in the downswing. I can carry it about 210, even my 5 iron which i rarely used on the coruse because of lack of distance i now know i can hit very well.I think the 70s are in my future, just need to hit better iron shots on the course, at the range i kill thembut something changes on course as we all know. Swing Faster And Stop Coming Over The Top Watch on Kyle Morris, named by Golf Digest as one of "America's Best Young Instructors" shows why the use of ones chest too much in the swing can lead to coming over the top and a lack of speed. This classic tip is designed to create the sensation of a proper golf. Perhaps because Im left-handed, but swing right-handed, I set the club behind the ball with the left hand only and then place my right hand on the club. A bit like throwing a ball, you can actually lob it with a minimal backswing because the power is all in the follow-through. I played football at 238lbs, full back, and used to lift a lot. Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* I love almost all your vdeos but in this one Once you have established the left hand grip, raise the left arm up on top of and across the chest (tricep lays on the pec.) that when you find it I cant seem to correct it. Your previous content has been restored. Both nice looking golf swings, IMO. My fixes) Ive started thinking of the old glove under the arm pit drill, except this time with the right arm. Excess knee flex will ruin your motion. Herman. That sucks. I do have a touch strong but not real strong took a look in the mirror it appeared too strong because of the left arm hanging or relaxed too much. It got to the point that I couldnt even find a comfortable or reliable position at address. Herman. Your knees should just crease slightly, no sitting or excessive bending. If you are going to try to get more width, you will likely have to turn your torso and shoulders farther back to get that right arm off your body. With this grip I swing in-out and hit nice draws but occasional hooks.maybe a hosel here and there. I feel you are great instructor so I want to stay with your teaching entirely now. is Pure Gold. Cause and effect. Any advice would be wonderful. Cross your hands over your chest so your opposite hands touch opposite shoulders. I have to focus more on being able to breathe at the top I feel the left lat stretching so hard lol. Here's how to do it. This is no small detail. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. Simply picture how the golf ball is in front of your body and the lead arm must also be in front of the body, not on the side. The book is packed with plenty of easy-to-read, simple tips aimed at older golfersthough that doesnt mean younger players cant learn from it! Clear editor. I will report back. Does the grip, stronger or weaker, affect this at all? XXIO X Series 5 Wood! This causes the club to approach the ball on a significantly in-to-out path with a hold-on style of release. I have a question regarding the position of the handle of the golf club. Place an alignment rod under your toes and make some swings. The path can cause the shank as the club tries to keep extending out away from the body near impact. Youd never get rid of me. I like Smocks swing too. So how do we setup to make a golf swing and avoid becoming a tourist attraction like the Leaning Tower? The second thing: get fitted for clubs. Herman, Herman when I set up like you describe I too press my left hip a little. Ive been battling this for years trying to figure out what is the correct position from how I have my wrists either pointing down or or cocked too much please help:). If your using your shoulders and body to turn and not just your arms the swing is the same. Centering the hands in my experience has improved most players abilities to align to target, square the face at address and make a reasonably sound takeaway. Thanks Jean. Keep up the good work and I will continue to keep in touch. Hey man, your video is awesome!! Please explain. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. You cannot paste images directly. Thanks for following and commenting. If you are strong but lack mobility, especially in thoracic spine, you should be a 3 barrel hitter. Heath is a big guy.but with a SWEET motion, Check out the last page of the kink to his thread above..Awesome stuff. The Mrs. Was right, but we are all golfers here, so that's what we do, no need for 2nd post. I like Smocks swing too. Your videos have greatly improved my game. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/881764-latest-swing-changes-post-jacksonville-updated-10-29-13/. Were no different take all the time necessary to create the setup and aim the shot; slowly, carefully march the setup over to the ball; waggle to count down and relax; then press the button triggering the motion the swing itself is over in less than a second and a half. If I use a neutral gripmy club face arrives open. Ive noticed on the range that many people set up with the handle of the golf club positioned near their left thigh, or pointed toward the target, creating the appearance of the club leaning forward at address. I like this video. In 5 lessons Ben Hogan says that for a 5 iron the stance should be set apart with shoulder width. One setup issue a I struggle with is spine tilt. Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Your email address will not be published. Head to our competitions page to enter. Your link has been automatically embedded. I'm going to have to get one! You may simply need more reps with the new stuff before it clicks. Get that left arm up high and across the chest and actually try to maintain a slightly closed appearance with the upper chest and shoulders relative to the feet. That is what I do anyway, for what ever it is worth. The left arm over the left chest was the issue. Good question. Your observations as a weight lifter are spot on. I've lifted weights on and off my entire life, and have a barrel chest with large arms (luckily, I have only a 32" waist, so I'm not fat). Remember to hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed it :) NEW VIDEO EVERY DAY ON MY CHANNEL-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------My Links:Facebook http://bit.ly/PFGolfFacebookTwitter http://bit.ly/PFGolfTwitterInstagram https://instagram.com/peterfinch/ Web http://bit.ly/PFGolfPro----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Download the Pin Seekerz app here!iPhone: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH Android: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH I deliver straight talking, easy to follow, honest, professional, calculated advice to all of my viewers from beginner to tour pro. I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. So my feet and shoulders do not match. Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. I certainly didn't intend it that way, so perhaps I should phrase my problem differently . I used to do this all the time but some how you just forget some of these important set up features. The golf setup is the foundation for a golf swing and getting setup to make a golf swing is probably as important as creating the proper foundation on which to build a building. If it is easy to turn etc.? Thanks for the suggestions, so far. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. A centered golf ball, or just slightly left of center technically, gets the ball positioned where the club has a chance to strike it cleanly, and as is the case with the irons, continue to descend. Place yourself in a balanced, athletic position, with the ball in the centre of the club face. Could expectation management be key to lowering your scores? My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. Basically the right shoulder drops to the right and left hip moves to the left. One more thing to pass on regarding getting yourself in the reverse K at setup. That sucks. Bow forward more at the hips if necessary. 2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30), Moi matched my iron set, now living on the heel, Diamana PD 50TX; Diamana TB 80TX; Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 52/10; Best Grip Microperf Midsize Augusta grips. Irons: Honma TW-X6-11, Wedges: Honma TW-W4 54* / 58* I kept being told you have a strong grip. My ball position is the same as everyone else, off of right ear, left pec-ish type. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. What I witnessed has me hoping this tournament crashes and burns in tremendous fashion. I am now 58 my handicap is 14.6 but lately I have lost a lot of distance and should probably be 18, I was never a massive hitter, probably 230 with the driver from a solid shot but now I am lucky to hit 180, 7 iron 110 all perfectly straight. Im a left handed golfer. He played at Central Arkansas, where he was a Backer. Hope this helps you can always sign-up for an online lesson if you have a way to send me some video. No, you just pick the ball up and throw it in one natural movement and without a thought. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. The real question is what are you looking for? Thanks for commenting. It looks like the guys on tour and even your sit up you almost let the club drop or even point your wrist down. Boy, that really seems to free me up, am I headed for a wreck? If thats correct then having the handle point at belt buckle usually works out to be a good shaft/wrist angle. You now have both hands on the club, left arm sitting somewhat uncomfortably on top of left chest, left shoulder is higher than the right (which means spine is tilted slightly to the right), right arm is soft at the elbow, right shoulder tucked back and down, club is pointed straight out from belt buckle. Like this? You're likely a "Width" swinger, think Craig Stadler. [/quote] Thanks Herman! Why do you turn your shoulders 90*? Net result should leave the butt of club aimed at belt buckle. Your link has been automatically embedded. Yes right arm must fall close to body on downswing. Your setup helped a lot and I got to identify, using your T, that the leading edge of my club was actually 5 deg+ open all the time. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. As for the swing, I really just focus on keeping my arms straight to keep the club in front of me, make sure I tilt left going back so my head doesn't move too far to my right, and then coming down I try to get my body rotating fast. Hopefully when I post an update after my trip to Jacksonville in Feb I will be down about 30 lbs. When things are going really bad, I sometimes set up with my left hand in the two-knuckle position with the face open to get my swing back on plane. Much appreciated. Problem for me is getting arms moving before the right shoulder which then causes my left bicep hits my pec very quickly and everything stops. Staying centered has been critical for my improvement, it tightens things up in the backswing and allows for a shallower downswing. Michael I have a doubt regarding my stance. I will report back HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. [*][size=4][b][color=#daa520]Callaway MD5 45,49,54,58/[/color]
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